Connecting the Dots: A Concise History of the Sasieni Pipe

by Stephen P. Smith

A Rare Ad From 1926.  Contributed by Anthony Goodman

A Rare Ad From 1926. Contributed by Anthony Goodman

Theodore Justin Gage, the former publisher of the much missed “The Compleat Smoker”, called Sasieni pipes a “fascinating collectible, …representing all that is good about classic English pipe making.” And for good reason: the pipes made by the Sasieni company between the years 1919 and 1979 rank among the very best the London pipe industry had to offer. They featured superb wood, flawless bowls, outstanding smoking qualities, and a styling that was uniquely theirs.

Yet for all that, Sasieni’s are among the most underrated pipes on the collectible market, usually selling for far below their real worth. In this, they offer the astute collector a genuine opportunity, whether he or she is looking for a pipe with potential for appreciation, or simply a great pipe at a reasonable price.

However, in order for the collector to capitalize on this, it is vitally important to realize the Sasieni company changed hands on two occasions, and each owner had different priorities and agendas. Not surprisingly, this was reflected in the quality of the pipes made during these different times. All bore the Sasieni name, and yet they were very different pipes.

It is possible to divide the Sasieni history into three eras, similar to Barling. In fact, throughout this article, I will be referring to “Pre-Transition, Transition, and Post-Transition” Sasieni’s. While this may raise a few eyebrows, I believe it will become clear these classifications are actually quite appropriate.

Therefore, it will also become clear a collector must be able to distinguish between Sasieni’s of different eras, as it is mainly the family made pieces made between 1919 and 1979 which are truly desirable to collectors. The dual purposes of this article, then, are to trace the history of the Sasieni pipe, and to enable collectors to judge, with a reasonable degree of certainty, when the Sasieni in question was made.

I. A Brief History of the Sasieni Company

There is a great deal of mystery surrounding the Sasieni pipe, owing largely to the fact there is such a paucity of written information about them, as is the case with many collectible pipes. Even the name of the founder has been subject to debate. One respected source says the founder was named “Joel” Sasieni. Another equally respected source says with equal certainty the name was “Joseph” Sasieni. (A third, rather less reliable source once told me “Joel” and “Joseph” were brothers, but I think we can safely dismiss that.)

An old Sasieni catalog which I came maddeningly identifies the founder as “J. Sasieni”. However, some research at the U. S. Patent Office conclusively shows that his first name was Joel.

{Author’s note: I have since learned that Joel did in fact have an older brother named Joseph, who was not involved in the family business. But Joel, in his obituary, was actually referred to as Joseph, no doubt because he was usually referred to as “Joe”.}

Joel Sasieni apprenticed at Charatan, and moved on to Dunhill, where he eventually rose the position of factory manager. Many men would have been perfectly satisfied with such a position, but not Mr. Sasieni. He opened up his own factory in 1919, believing he could improve on some of Dunhill’s methods. Mr. Sasieni was, if nothing else, an optimist.

Things did not go smoothly for the new firm. The factory burned down almost immediately. Apparently undaunted, Mr. Sasieni simply rebuilt the factory and carried on.

One change he incorporated in his pipes was the method of curing the bowls. While the briar blocks were air cured, similar to Barling, Sasieni took this process a step further by “oven curing” his pipes. Each pipe was cured in an oven over a period of six weeks, being removed periodically by a factory worker, who would wipe away the moisture as it emerged from the bowl with a rag, and check it for cracks. The end result was Sasieni pipes (the ones that survived) were extremely dry smoking.

Sasieni was not oblivious to the success Dunhill had achieved with its famous “White Spot” logo, and while he obviously couldn’t copy the logo exactly, he apparently saw no problem with reinterpreting it a bit. Therefore, each Sasieni pipe which came out of the factory had a single blue dot in the stem.

Not surprisingly, the idea of their former employee competing with them using a very similar trademark didn’t exactly make Dunhill’s day. They threatened legal action in both the U. K. and the U. S.  In an initial attempt to avoid a lawsuit, Sasieni moved the one blue dot to the side of the pipe. This unfortunately didn’t do the trick, and only a few side dot Sasieni’s were ever made, which are now extremely rare and collectible.  A settlement was eventually reached in 1924.

So, thanks in part to Dunhill’s patent attorneys, one of the most famous logos in the pipe industry was born. To clearly differentiate his pipes from Dunhill’s, Sasieni put four blue dots on the stem of his pipes, arranged in the shape of an elongated diamond.

Over the years, there has been a great deal of speculation about the “European One Dot”.  The belief persists that Sasieni continued to produce the One Dot well into the Sixties.  Personally, I find this highly doubtful, and many knowledgeable collectors agree with me.

The reason for this is one simply never sees a One Dot with a town name on it, or any other nomenclature that one would expect to find on a post 1930 Sasieni.  I know I haven’t, nor has any of the knowledgeable collectors of my acquaintance.  My personal theory is that some people were confused by the “Claret”, which was a second produced in the Sixties that did indeed have one blue dot on the stem (by this time one supposes Dunhill had simply stopped caring what Sasieni did), but these pipes were clearly seconds, and are instantly recognizable by a dark bruyere stain and a turquoise ferule.

The word “Claret” on the shank is also a bit of a tip off.

The distinctive new logo was an immediate hit in the U. S., where it, along with the pipes’ exceptional smoking qualities, helped the pipe to sell in such quantities the factory had trouble keeping up with the demand. In fact, by the 1930’s over 90% of Sasieni’s production was going to American shores.

Ah, but we Americans are a restless lot. We just don’t know when to leave well enough alone. So enamored had the U. S. market become of the four blue dots, the importer wanted to make sure they could be seen by everyone standing on each side of the smoker. Therefore Sasieni, reluctantly by some accounts, agreed to put four more dots on the right side of the stem.

The Sasieni Eight Dot is now the most collectible of all Sasieni pipes, due to both its scarcity and the fact that, unlike other Sasieni’s, the collector can be reasonably certain when the pipe was made. The Eight Dot made its debut in the late 1920’s or very early 1930’s, and was discontinued during W.W.II due to the inevitable shortages of supplies. Like the Four Dot, the Eight Dot had its logo made by individually inserting rods of blue plastic into pre-drilled holes in the stem, similar to the process used by Dunhill for their one white spot.

This was an excruciatingly difficult procedure, even on the Four Dot, for each dot had to be placed just right in order to create the desired diamond shape, and on the Eight Dot, both sets had to be symmetrical. For all that, it is rare to find a an original Sasieni bit in which the dots are even the slightest bit off. This in itself bears testimony to the fastidiousness with which Mr. Sasieni applied his craft. It also makes it fairly easy to spot a fake Sasieni stem.

Both the Eight Dot and the Four Dot were marketed in the U. S. during the pre-war years, with the Eight Dot fetching more money, even though both pipes used the same wood.

The post war years brought many changes at the Sasieni company, not the least of which was the death of Mr. Sasieni himself, in 1946. His son Alfred (named, perhaps, for his father’s arch-rival and former boss?) proved a worthy successor to his fathers’ business, and the company continued to thrive under his leadership. About this time the company started stamping “Four Dot” on the shanks of the pipes, to further capitalize on the now famous trademark’s prestige. There were other changes in both the shank nomenclature and the dots themselves, which will be reviewed in detail later on.

Through the post war years, Sasieni added shapes and lines. While the Four Dot remained their most famous product, the company also sold lines of “seconds” under various names, such as Mayfair, Fantail, Olde English, and Friar. These were pipes made of good wood, but possessed of some flaw, usually filled with putty. Pipes that were almost, but not quite, good enough to be a Four Dot were sold as Two Dots. I have two of these pipes in my collection. Both pipes are quite striking, exhibiting exquisite shapes and exceptional grain. At first I wondered why they were not Four Dots. Eventually, after long inspection, I discovered each pipe contained one very small filled flaw. In spite of this they remain two of my favorite pipes. However, it is clear Sasieni was determined to put the Four Dot logo on only the most perfect pipes.

Alfred Sasieni continued to run the company prosperously until 1979, when he sold out to another firm. Interestingly, he stayed on in the capacity of a director. At first it seems to have been a harmonious partnership. The new owners started their tenure with a limited edition reissue Eight Dot. This was a generous sized, natural stained smooth pipe which occasionally also had a gold band. Each pipe had a blue string running through the bowl, shank, and stem, affixed with a lead stamp and paper tab signed by Alfred Sasieni himself. These pipes are both strikingly handsome and maddeningly elusive, due to the fact only 100 (or so, accounts differ) were ever made.

This spirit of cooperation between the old and new owners does not appear to have lasted long. Alfred Sasieni believed only vulcanite should be used for pipe stems, eschewing the newer, trendier Lucite. When the new owners, contrary to Alfred’s wishes, issued a new Ten Dot, replete with Lucite stem, it seems Alfred decided he had had enough, and left the firm for good.

The new owners of what can accurately be called the “Transition” firm continued to create high quality pipes using the old wood and methods they inherited from the Alfred days. However, these pipes are not as collectible as the family pipes, and it is necessary for the collector to be able to differentiate between the two.

The new owners do not appear to have retained their interest in pipe making for very long, as they sold the company again in 1986. Unfortunately, this new, “Post-Transition” firm decided to abandon the high grade market place, and instead transformed the Sasieni into a mid range “smoker”, a metamorphosis from which it has yet to recover. The news owners decided to capitalize on the Four Dot mystique by eliminating all “second” lines, and issuing practically everything under the Sasieni banner as a Four Dot. This had the inevitable effect of lowering the overall quality of the line. For the first time, it was possible to find a Four Dot with a putty fill, which would have been unheard of when the family ran the company. Even the “Transition” firm maintained the integrity of the Four Dot line by marketing flawed pipes under some other line.

Ironically, it is generally agreed the two most active markets in this country today are the “high end” and “low end” markets, with the middle $35-$100 range being the most sluggish–precisely where the new Sasieni’s are now being marketed. Fortunately, fairly obvious changes in the nomenclature–to say nothing of the presence of putty–make it easy to spot a “Post-Transition” Sasieni.

II. Dating a Sasieni

No, this has nothing to do with asking the pipe to go out to the movies with you. As I have mentioned before, it is important to be able to date a Sasieni which you are contemplating purchasing. Pre-Transition Sasieni’s, as I will now call them, are obviously the most collectible and desirable, with the Transition pipes being marginally collectible (although the commemorative Eight Dot, when you can find one, is extremely collectible), and the Post-Transition Sasieni’s having little or no collector value at all.

Unlike Dunhill’s, Sasieni’s (and in fact most pipes) do not have an explicit system for dating the pipe to the year. However, by understanding an admittedly somewhat arcane combination of nomenclature, patent numbers, and dot arrangements, it is possible to narrow your Sasieni’s date of manufacture to within a certain era, and sometime even down to a certain decade.

Ironically, the pre-W.W.II pipes are easier to date than the post war pipes, because Joel Sasieni was always fiddling with the details which help to date the pipe. Son Alfred seems to have made some initial changes in the nomenclature after taking over the company in 1946, and been content to leave well enough alone. Sasieni nomenclature changed very little between 1950 and 1979, although the company continued to develop new shapes and finishes.

To begin with, there are three main elements to dating the Sasieni pipe, the patent number, the style of the name “Sasieni” as it appears on the shank, and the Dots themselves. Naturally, there are exceptions to these rules (this hobby would be boring without them), but for the most part these guidelines apply better than 95% of the time. All Sasieni One, Four, and Eight Dot pipes made before W.W.II carried a patent number on the shank, with 150221/20 stamped on pipes destined for the European Market  and 1513428 being stamped on pipes that were to be exported to the U. S. Also, the name “Sasieni” was stamped on the shank in a very florid manner, with the tail of the last “i” sweeping underneath the name forming a shape which has been compared to a fish by more than one collector. This script was discontinued by Alfred almost immediately after he took over the company, due, it believed, to the fact that the original stamps were melted down and contributed to the war effort, so this alone tells you your pipe is pre W.W.II. Underneath in block lettering are the words “London Made”, with the patent number making the third line.

The dots will help you narrow this down further. As we mentioned, the short lived U. S. market One Dot was introduced around 1920, and was replaced by the early to mid 1920’s by the Four Dot. The 1920’s Four Dot is distinguishable by the florid Sasieni script, a patent number, and four blue dots, which are quite small compared to the pipes of post war years. Furthermore, by 1935 Sasieni began stamping pipes, based on the shape, with their own names, which were usually, but not always, English towns. For example, apples were stamped “Hurlingham”, bulldogs were “Grosvenor” or “Danzey”, and panels were “Lincoln”. One rare and interesting variation of this was the large bent, dubbed “Viscount Lascelles”. Even in this soft Sasieni market, these pipes regularly sell for $150 in their rare appearances in mailers.

As mentioned above, the Eight Dot appeared in the late 1920’s or early 1930’s. These too have the florid script and the patent number, and the presence or absence of a town name will help you date this pipe fairly precisely. Although the Eight Dot remained in the catalogue through the war, it was for all intents and purposes discontinued during W.W.II.

Once Alfred took over the company in 1946, these elements changed in fairly rapid succession. The first thing to be changed was the nomenclature itself. In place of the elaborate “Sasieni” stamp of pre war pipes, a simpler, though still script style, “Sasieni” was used. This can be seen on patent pipes which have the small, old style dots.

Soon after, Sasieni enlarged the dots themselves, and they formed an equilateral rather than an elongated diamond. My pet theory on this is the dots were enlarged to make up for the fact there were no longer eight of them, but I can’t prove it. Finally the patent number was discontinued, and the words “Four Dot” were added. The shank thus read:

Sasieni
Four Dot
London Made.

Somewhat later still, this was modified to reflect the finish, e.g. Four Dot Walnut, or Four Dot Natural. All these changes seem to have been made in the years between 1946 and 1950. Therefore a pipe with new style dots and old style stamping almost certainly has a replacement stem.

This system changed little if at all in the ensuing thirty years. When the company was sold in 1979, one of the first things the new owners did was to eliminate the town names from the shanks. The dots were enlarged yet further, and the Sasieni name, though still done in script, was larger, as was the rest of the shank nomenclature, which in all other ways was similar to the Pre-Transition nomenclature. While these pipes are not as collectible as the family made pipes, they were made with care and are high quality.

The nomenclature changed again in 1986, with the sale of the company to the Post-Transition firm. The three line nomenclature was changed to two lines, with the first reading “Sasieni 4 Dot” and the second identifying the finish, e.g. Natural, Walnut, or Ruff Root. Note how 4 Dot is spelled, using an Arabic numeral 4, as opposed to spelling out the word “four”. This is the easiest way to spot a Post-Transition Sasieni, as the new company has used both script and block lettering to spell the word “Sasieni” on the shank.

III. Why Collect Sasieni’s?

There are many reasons to collect these pipes, ranging from the purely monetary to the aesthetic and esoteric. While I personally do not collect pipes to make money, nor do I advise same, the fact remains a high grade, flawless, first quality pipe that currently sells for less than $100, and often less than $50, surely must have some potential for appreciation. No less an authority than the late Barry Levin himself once told me he felt Sasieni’s were severely under valued, but as time went by they would eventually take their rightful place next to Dunhill and Barling, as people came to appreciate the wonderful qualities of this pipe.

There are many theories regarding the soft market for these pipes, the most logical and most accepted of which points to the low price of the currently made pipes. Sellers are often reluctant to price a pre-smoked pipe higher than an unsmoked one of the same brand, and buyers reluctant to pay more.. It is important to remember, though, there is a vast difference in quality between the Pre-Transition and Post-Transition Sasieni’s. The older pipes should sell for more than the new ones, simply because their quality is so much higher.

Monetary considerations aside, there are many other reasons to collect Sasieni’s. First, unlike many collectible pipes, the Sasieni is actually quite datable, contrary to popular belief. The ability to date a Sasieni at least within a certain era, and sometimes within a decade, not only deepens our appreciation of these pipes, it also ensures we spend our money wisely.

Furthermore, there is the company itself. Sasieni was a family owned company, run by people who took deep pride in their work. The firm has an interesting history, with links to two of England’s other great firms, Dunhill and Charatan, whose influence can occasionally be seen in Sasieni pipes.

Most importantly, there is the pipe itself. Sometimes it almost seems as though collectors forget the ultimate purpose of a pipe is to deliver a great smoke. Pre-Transition Sasieni’s fulfilled this purpose admirably, and continue to do so. The old Sasieni’s were renowned for being extremely dry smoking, and even today a well cared for Sasieni will deliver a cool, dry smoke, even though the pipe may be over seventy years old. While Pre-Transition Sasieni’s are usually available only on a pre-smoked basis, occasionally one can still be found unsmoked by the fortunate collector.

On top of all this, the pipe is truly pleasing to the eye. The wood is full grained, usually featuring striking cross cuts and astonishing birds-eye, as well as the occasional straight grain. The Four and Eight Dot, as well as the early One Dot pipes always had clean bowls. Any pipe with even a tiny fill was relegated to the “second” line.

One virtue of Sasieni’s which I rarely if ever see commented on deserves mention here. The Sasieni shape line, particularly prior to the war, has an undeserved reputation for being limited and overly conservative. Yet by 1935 their catalogue listed no less than 50 different shapes! As one acquires more of these pipes one will continually be surprised at the many unusual shapes, which show, perhaps, the influence of Charatan. Anyone who has ever seen the shape knows as the Exeter, which can only be described as a sort of freehand bull moose, will know what I mean.

Besides the Exeter, I have in my own collection a 1920’s One Dot shaped like a clay pipe, complete with tilted bowl and a heel underneath, and a 1970’s era Two Dot, which can only be described as a tilt bowl, diamond shank pear (Sasieni only used the descriptive town names on the Four and Eight Dot series). The Sasieni pipe is quite literally full of surprises. I have no doubt as I continue adding to my own collection, I will discover yet more unusual shapes.

Sasieni was also a pioneer in the concept of “Ladies’ Pipes”. Three styles, the “Argyle”, the “Montrose”, and the “Dorset” were designed specifically for ladies. Unlike many so-called ladies’ pipes, these pipes did not mar the finish with colored lacquer, or have a bowl so small the lady in question could only get a five minute smoke. Instead, they had reasonably sized bowls, and long slender stems and shanks. The “Argyle” and “Montrose” were carved and smooth versions of a Billiard, respectively, and the “Dorset” was a carved oval shaped bowl. Needless to say, these pipes could be enjoyed by anyone who simply wanted a smaller, slimmer pipe, as the finishes were exactly the same as the rest of the Sasieni line.

Finally, there are the dots. This may sound a bit silly to the non-Sasieni collector, but Sasieni collectors know exactly what I mean. Sasieni collectors have a fascination with the striking logo, which is both distinctive yet tasteful. Some would say it has an almost mystical quality about it. Over the years, the dots have changed both in size and color (although many of the seeming color “variations” are simply a result of aging.) Over the years the dots ranged in color from light blue to a vivid sky blue. Many collectors are as enthralled with the dot variations as with the pipe itself!

The delights of this pipe are almost endless. They deliver a great smoke, visual enjoyment, and maybe even the possibility of monetary appreciation. They deserve to take their place next to the other great collectible pipes of England’s recent past, and perhaps, with more understanding on the part of collectors, they will.

IV. Some Acknowledgments

It is impossible to write an article such as this without a lot of help from other people, and indeed, I received a great deal of help from the pipe collecting community, from both the famous and the obscure. It never ceases to amaze me that I could call someone from out of the blue, and, upon identifying myself as a fellow pipe collector, have that person gladly, often enthusiastically, drop whatever he was doing and talk to me about pipes for an hour or more.

An article like this is never truly finished.  Especially since I put it on the blog, it has become a work in progress.  Just when I think I’ve got it all figured out, I’ll talk to another collector, or read another magazine article, or come across some bit of long hidden information, and be forced to reconsider my ideas.

Thanks first and foremost to Theodore Justin Gage, former publisher of “The Compleat Smoker”.  Gage graciously allowed me to quote from their published works, and gave generously of is time on many occasions each.

Thanks are due to Jim Cooke, the Vermont alchemist without whom there would be far fewer estate pieces in our collections. Jim answered many questions concerning the inner workings of the Sasieni pipe, describing in almost torturous detail the steps involved in creating the Eight Dot stem.

Many estate pipe dealers also gave generously of their time. Thanks go to Nikos Levin, Steve Leaders, and Jack Ehrmantraut, for discussing at length with me the current state of the Sasieni market.

Of course, there is the pipe collecting community itself, that legion of relentless individuals who scour the dark places in search of collectible briar. Thanks to Red Coombes, who played a crucial role in helping me verify the very existence of the seemingly apocryphal Ten Dot Sasieni. Thanks also to Mike Reschke, the well known Parker collector who’s also pretty smart when it comes to Sasieni’s. Mike introduced me to Jim Copic, and what amazing conversations those were! I felt like I had hit the mother load! Jim enthusiastically collects not only pipes but hard to find ephemera, and was an invaluable source of information about all kinds of obscure facts, including details of the Sasieni guarantee.

And finally, thanks to the members of the Massachusetts based Sherlock Holmes Pipe Club, particularly the late Col. Don Powers, who encouraged me to write this article when I myself had grave doubts about the project (“Aw shucks, Don! I don’t know nothin’ about writin’ in no fancy magazine!”), and who if fact was one of the people who got me started on the road to collecting Sasieni’s in the first place.
Copyright (c) 1996 by Stephen P. Smith
All rights reserved

Richard Carleton Hacker, The Ultimate Pipe Book, 2nd ed. (1984; reprint, Beverly Hills, CA: Autumngold Publishing, 1989), 234. Quoted with the author’s permission.

Theodore Justin Gage, “The Sasieni Pipe: A Discriminating Collector’s Delight,” Levin Pipes International’s The Complete Smoker Monograph #2, October, 1993. Quoted with the author’s permission.

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57 Responses to “My Sasieni Pipe Article”


  1. 1 christopher gaul
    February 27, 2007 at 11:07 am

    Your article is fascinating and I am very grateful to you for having written it. I’m sure you get a lot of these kinds of questions but I was wondering if you might be kind enough to help me date a Sasieni I’ve had and cherished for many years. It is a rather long-stemmed smooth-briar billiard. The four dots on the left side of the stem are now rather more white than blue. On the left side of the shank the nomenclature (pretty faded) is “Sasieni” (script). Under the name is “Four Dot” and under that, “London Made”. On the right side is the name “MARLOW” in caps. Many thanks for your consideration. Chris Gaul.

  2. March 12, 2007 at 11:24 pm

    Wow, what a cool article. I was recently given a Sasieni from my girlfriends father (who is a 50+year veteran pipe smoker) as a gift. I was curious about its age not so much its worth. After reading your article it appears to be a pre WWII pipe. It has the described script, London Made, Pat/150221/?0 on its stamp. What I really want to know is what town name or word is written below it. It is slightly faded. It reads: ?OOMPAUL There may be a slight space between the M and P. Any suggestions? Thanks again for the article.

    It’s hard to say without seeing the pipe, but I can say that it’s either pre-war or very early post-war. This is one of the rare cases where the shape is not given a “town name” (Viscount Lascelle is another one). Your pipe is a shape known as an “Oom-Paul”, named for Oom Paul Kruger (1825-1904), who fought the British during the Boer War. He smoked a pipe of that shape incessantly, and his name became associated with it forever more. Because of this, Sasieni simply identified it with its already well known shape name.

    Thanks for stopping by. I’m glad you liked the article!

  3. 3 christopher gaul
    March 26, 2007 at 2:55 pm

    Steve, I have just acquired a Sasieni Fantail (smooth billiard size #3) with the patent number “D-170067” Does that suggest anything as to the date it was made or, at least, a time period? Many thanks for your kind consideration. Best, Chris Gaul.

    A patent number usually means a pre WWII piece. Very early post-war at latest.

  4. 4 christopher gaul
    April 27, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    Dear Steve, I wonder if I might impose on you once more to gain your Sasieni insight? What can you tell me about the Sasieni “Rustic?” I have just acquired two 1930s Four Dot rustics, one a “Westmorland,” the other a “Canterbury.” They have the old Sasieni fish-tail script and four small dots on top of the stems. How might they rate in terms of collectibility (if there is such a word)? Also, were these pipes hand-carved, and might they be similar, in a way, to the old Barling “Quaints?”
    I would be extremely grateful hear what you have to say. Many thanks, Chris Gaul.

    Any pre-war Sasieni is collectible, if it’s in good condition, and has the original stem. Sounds like you have to really nice pipes there!

  5. June 6, 2007 at 11:37 pm

    Dear Steve,

    Great article! I was looking for Sasieni pipes on eBay and ran across a Sasieni Four Dot with the equilateral dots on the side of the stem, the newer Sasieni script stamp, the words “FOUR DOT” stamped, but the 15221/20 pat. no. also stamped on the pipe. Clearly, this is a pipe made after Alfred took over, but the patent number is present. What do you make of that?

    To answer your question, it is not uncommon to see the patent number on pipes like this, as it seems as though the patent number was the last thing to go. I don’t know exact dates, but i would guess the pipe is late ’40’s production.

  6. 6 Aaron
    August 5, 2007 at 10:30 pm

    Steve,

    I’ve been researching this pipe I got in a lot all evening and have finally found some answers, I think. The pipe I have has 8 dots, four on either side, and Sasieni over HAND MADE over something totally unreadable which I’m assuming was the patent number, but on the other side there is what appears to be XMEX. The pipe is obviously very old, and I’m assumig it is pre-war, but the dots aren’t blue, they’re yellow to really dirty white looking, but are small (no larger than 1.2 mm) and are in very nearly perfect diamonds on each side. I guess I’m asking is this an original stem and what is the faded word on the other side of teh shank? There is no sort of stinger or tube or anything, but I’m not sure there was supposed to be. I haven’t decided yet whether to clean it up and keep it or sell it or sell it as is (very heavy cake). I’m leaning against reaming if I’m gonna sell it as not to hurt it in anyone else’s eyes.

    Thanks for the help,
    Aaron Berwick

    What you have is a Sasieni Eight Dot. These pipes are fairly rare and quite collectible, and go for quite a bit on eBay if they’re in good shape. “XMEX” is probably what’s left of the shape name. Sasieni identified their shapes by naming them (usually) after English towns. The stem is probably original, as the blue dots often faded to an off white with age. A replacement stem would have new, blue dots, which are often not arranged as well as the original.

    -sps

  7. 7 paul
    November 3, 2007 at 12:05 pm

    Hello I have two sasieni pipes one is an eight dot with floral script pat # 1513428 onther side of shank reads marlow and the other pipe is a sasieni mayfair under mayfair off to the side is made in england and other side is london made shape# 56 what are the pipes ages any other info thanks much

    Not much I can tell you about the Mayfair, as they were made for many years, and yours could have been made at any time. Perhaps if I saw the pipe.

    I can be more helpful with the 8 Dot. That, my friend, is a great pipe! They are very rare, and very collectible. They were only made in the 1930’s, possibly into the 1940’s. They were discontinued after WWII. Quite a find!

  8. 8 William Gallagher
    November 14, 2007 at 10:26 am

    Stephen, Thanks for the very informative article. I have a small Sasieni (bowl height 44mm; inner bowl diameter 11mm) full-bent, in a golden colour with a very attractive tight birds eye grain. I detect no fills. The fantail stem is a well-fitted replacement, obviously, since it has no dots. The left side of the shank has three lines: Sasieni (in script), FOUR DOT NATURAL, and LONDON MADE. The right side of the shank has “RUTLAND” and MADE IN above ENGLAND in a small oval. May I assume from the information that you provide that this pipe was produced before 1979?
    Kind regards.

    You assume correctly, sir. Probably made some time after 1950. Sounds like a nice pipe.

  9. 9 Bryan Murphy
    November 22, 2007 at 8:06 pm

    I have just picked an estate Sasieni that doesn’t seem to fit your criteria at all. Maybe european?

    Bulldog about group 3, one blue dot and blue ring on stem-side. Left upper shank: CLARET / LONDON MADE / BY SASIENI (straight lines, top to bottom). Right upper shank: MADE IN / ENGLAND (football shaped), 97 (right & under ENGLAND).

    Any ideas?

    The reason your pipe doesn’t “fit” is because it was a second. The Claret was a “second” made primarily in the ’60’s. They’re not as collectible as the Sasieni “firsts”, but they are rare and kind of interesting because they’re so different.

    Thanks for stopping by!

  10. 10 matthew miller
    December 6, 2007 at 1:08 am

    i recently picked up a pipe marked St Andrews in a canted dublin shape with a rustic finish,the shape and finish comply to 1936 sasieni catalogue.It has one blue/green dot on the side and is marked with the number 243.However there is no sasieni mark or number,just a blank space between the name and the number over an inch long.any ideas? thanks, Matthew Miller

    Tough to say without seeing the pipe. Dot on the side? It could be actually be quite a find. Sasieni, for a very brief time, slid the dot from the top of the stem to the side to avoid confusion with the Dunhill logo. Evidently not satisfied, they shortly thereafter created the now famous Four Dot logo. Side Dot Sasienis are very rare, and extremely collectible, but again, I’d have to see the pipe.

    Thanks for stopping by.

  11. 11 Mary Reynolds
    January 25, 2008 at 3:11 am

    I have been given a box of pipes that were my father’s. I decided to list them on EBAY as vintage since all of them were well smoked. I was going to group them all together but one was a Meershaum so that made me start reading the pipes.

    I found your article by searching for the Sasieni. I read your entire article. So very interesting. My father’s pipe does not fit the descriptions, of course!!! I feel the stem was replaced even though it looks like it belongs to this pipe and looks to be the same age as the bowl. It has no dots. The markings simply state on left-side Sashar (fancy lettering) directly under it states in tiny letters all caps SASIENI MADE. On the right-side it states top line Made in and directly below England then to the right close to the close to the bowl it has 148 or possibly 14B. If there was anything else on the pipe, it was worn off as Dad must have loved this pipe. It was really smoked. The wood looks tiger stripped. Before I sell this, I wanted to make sure it wasn’t a fake. I truly hate parting with any of his pipes but no one in my family smokes or would appreciate their value. Thank you for your help.

    Hi, Mary! Thank you for stopping by! I’ve sent you an email.

    It appears that your Sasieni is one of the many “second lines” that Sasieni produced in those days. I have to admit that I was hitherto unfamiliar with the “Sashar”, but that just goes to show that there’s always something new to learn with this hobby.

    -sps

  12. 12 Dr. Michael Gardner
    February 1, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    Hi Steve,

    I need help and can send you pics if they will help. I have a very large straight grain Sasieni Freehand plateau on top of the bowl and end of shank.

    Shank is stamped very clearly as follows:

    Sasieni (in script)
    Four Dot Natural
    118 A LONDON MADE

    The other side of the shank has:
    MADE IN
    ENGLAND in sort of a football shape

    When I got it, it had a poorly made replacement stem, sort of freehand style.

    Do you know when the pipe might have been made?
    Have you ever seen one?
    What would the original stem have looked like?

    Dr. Michael Gardner
    Wichita, KS

    Michael,

    Your pipe was made sometime between 1979-1986. Alfred Sasieni sold the company in 1979, but remained on the board of directors. During this time, the pipes were still very high quality, although they are not as collectible as the family made pieces. But it’s still a very nice pipe.

    As far as the stem goes, I really can’t say, although I suspect that the original stem was not remarkably different from the one that’s on the pipe now.

    Hope this helps.

  13. 13 Anthony Goodman
    February 8, 2008 at 11:51 am

    Joel Sasieni was my great-grandfather. The confusion about his name might come from a Jewish family tradition that each child had a Hebrew/biblical first name and an Anglicized middle name which they were usually known by. So Joseph Joel Sasieni was the father of Abraham Alfred Sasieni (my grandfather).

    Anthony, it’s a pleasure to make your acquaintance! Thank you for stopping by!

  14. 14 Robert Donnelly
    February 14, 2008 at 11:18 am

    Steve,

    I have been collecting and smoking pipes for some 34 years now with my main interest being early family era Sasieni’s, and specifically rustics. Although my collection isn’t large by some standards I like to think it does have some nice pieces. I can’t tell you how informative your article was to me and since that time I have been putting together my own personal Sasieni history page based on your excellent article with whatever additional facts I have been able to find i.e, additional stampings, initials, finishes, seconds(which now number 45).I would greatly appreciate it if you could take the time and look over what I have and make any comments. If you could please send me an email in reply to this I can then send you my history.

    Best Regards,
    Robert

    email on the way!

  15. 15 Todd Platek
    March 27, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Fascinating article for me, a 2d generation pipesmoker who only recently got seriously into collecting. Thanks! Despite their newness, are Sasieni pipes of the current, post-transition period, good smokers and still made of high-quality briar? Todd

    Hi, Todd!

    The currently made Sasieni pipes are decent enough pipes, good wood for the money, although they usually have putty fills, which you never saw in the family pieces. In fact, it was my desire to be able to discern the family era pieces from the later ones that started the research which eventually led to this essay.

    Thanks for stopping by!

    -sps

  16. March 31, 2008 at 9:33 am

    hi sir,

    i am selling an 8 dot sasieni in my ebay auction Item number: 370038082280
    i would like to ask permission from you. if i could use full or partial excerpts of your blog.
    thank you and have a good day.

    best regards…Rey de Rivera

    I have no problem with you quoting from my blog as long as you give me proper attribution (i.e. my name and the name of this blog), and you do not use my work for any deceptive or misleading purposes (I’m sure you wouldn’t anyway, but I have to put that in there). Apart from that feel free to quote me. Thanks for visiting my blog!

    -sps

  17. May 30, 2008 at 5:51 am

    Hello Stephen,

    Great article! I’m hoping that you can help me with dating a Sasieni that I just purchased. I know that it’s pre-WWII, but I’m wondering if you have any information regarding hallmarks that can help me date it more precisely.

    The best place to go for UK hallmarks is the Pipe Club of London site: http://www.pcol.co.uk/.

    What I have is a rusticated (spectacular symmetrical sandblast) 8 dot, model #35 with a patent # that reads as 1513428. All markings are crisp. It has a military bit. The sterling cap has the letters JS enclosed in a circle, and three hallmarks in a row: the letter “F”, a lion rampant, and what could be a shield.

    Hallmarks are not really my strong suit, and obviously it helps to see the pipe. Furthermore, hallmarks really only date the silver, not necessarily the pipe. From what you’re telling me the hallmark is either from 1923 or 1948. My guess is the cap was added in ’48 after the pipe was made, but obviously I could be wrong.

    The pipe is going to need a restoration. The “bones” are good, but it needs a thorough cleaning and the silver cap has split where it was soldered and will need to be mended. Any suggestions regarding a restorer will also be appreciated.

    Were it not for the silver work, I could probably do it for you. I’m the person who restores estate pipes at the smoke shop where I work. New silver work is a different matter. I suggestyou go to http://www.pipes.org and have a look around. Sorry I can’t be more help on that one.

    Thanks for stopping by. Feel free to email me if I can help you any further.

    thanks,

    Jesse Silver

  18. 18 Todd Litten
    August 29, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Greeting,

    As a new smoker (at least new to pipes)I am constantly searching for pieces to add to my small, yet rapidly growing collection. After reading your essay (very nicely done by the way) I am now convinced that it would not be any kind of collection at all without a nice old Family Era Sasieni. I have found a “Sasieni” that I am considering for purchase, but am a little concerned about its authenticity (at least as a first rate Sasieni as opposed to a “second”). Below is a description of the marking stamped on the shank of the pipe…

    “On the bottom of the shank is stamped COVENTRY over BY SASIENI next to shape number 62 next to MADE IN ENGLAND. On the stem is a readable though very light S stem mark. All stampings are crisp, a testament to the gentle handling of this distinctly vintage pipe.”

    … if you could please offer any advice to a new pipe smoker about the true identity of this pipe, I would very much appreciate it.

    Regards,

    Todd Litten

    Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I haven’t been doing much blogging lately due to personal reasons.

    Your pipe is a second. I honestly don’t know a lot about the “Coventry”, but I do know that Sasieni was not shy about producing seconds. There are many second lines, and I’m sure I have yet to find them all. They are not as valuable as the Four Dot, for obvious reasons, but are often great pipes if you can get them at a reasonable (i. e. less than $100) price. Some people just see the Sasieni name and put on a high price tag.

    Sounds like a nice pipe though. I hope you ended up getting it.

  19. 19 Hugo
    October 7, 2008 at 8:16 am

    Hi Stephen
    i have 4 unsmoked 1 dots that i would like to get your oppinion on

    Email sent.

  20. 20 Bren
    October 7, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Steve, Your website article is full of knowledge, thanks for your time and effort. I have a pipe that has some info on it that I couldn’t find after all the reading of your website. I am wondering if you might help me here. It is a full curve bend pipe (reminds me of the shape Sherlock Holmes had) and it has 4 beige dots on the stem in a triangle shape. It appears that the top and bottom dot is a bit smaller than the left and right dot but it could be my eyes! On the bottom of the pipe it is stamped: Sasieni and underneath that it says: FOUR DOT and under that it says: London Made and under that it has a Pat.No 150221/20 and under that is what confused me, it says something like “OOMPAUL” could that be correct or do you think some letters are missing? And if not, what does this mean? Then to the left side of all this writting is England (stamped in a bowl shaped curve). I tried my hardest to find something about this “oompaul” without bothering you but I had no luck in finding anything with those letters in them. Any help will do, thanks, Bren

    “Oom-Paul” refers to the shape of the pipe. It was named for Oom Paul Kruger, who was famous for smoking this shape pipe.

    It’s hard to be specific without seeing the pipe, but the presence of a patent number tells me that the pipe could not have been made later than the 1940’s, and possibly earlier.

    Hope this helps! Feel free to contact me if you have any more questions. Pictures are always helpful.

  21. 21 Jason Raphael
    December 22, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    Dear Sir:

    I thought that the 4-dots from the 60″s and early 70’s were the top grade pipes; more desirable than the 1-3 dot models. Is this true?

    Thanks.

    Jason

  22. 22 MSee
    December 31, 2008 at 9:07 am

    Hello,

    Is Sasieni Fantail patent pipes should originally have some dots on stem or could have only F?

    Thank you,

    MSee

  23. 23 Aaron
    January 25, 2009 at 2:02 am

    Hello,

    Wonderful article and a great source for Sasieni information. I have been collecting Sasieni pipes for some time and I have come across a pipe that I cannot explain. The pipe is a Specially Selected one dot that I received from Italy. Now I am quite familiar with the 150221/20 and 1513428 patents as well as the Fantail patent. However, the patent number on my one dot with old fish tail script is clearly stamped 242513/25. European patent? Help!

    Thank you
    Aaron

  24. 24 Costin
    January 27, 2009 at 10:04 am

    Dear Steve, wonderful article indeed. I have recently received as a gift a pipe “called” Sasieni but I am afraid my friend was tricked. The pipe has 5 dots on the stem and it is stamped Saseni on the left side of the shank. On the right side of the shank it is stamped Eu made ??? !!!

    Am I right ot suspect cheating here ?

    Thank you very much.
    Costin

  25. March 28, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Hallo…..

    I have two MAYFAIR london made london england a* 722D and 307S….can you tell me anything abougt these pipes……Hwo have made them?

    best regards William

  26. 26 Beau Regard
    April 7, 2009 at 2:14 am

    Stephen (if I may be so informal given our lack of a formal introduction):

    The purpose for contacting you will perhaps seem odd. Nevertheless, I felt it important to do so. The reason, for both, is in regards to your comment on EBay associated with the auction of the Sasieni FAMILY ERA Four-Dot “Derby” Sandblast 1946-79, where you very appropriately asked for attribution. Whereas I deemed your comments to be entirely fitting and polite, I found the answer by Valichka Consignment Pipe Sales to be unnecessarily brusque and dismissive, if not ill-mannered. As a pipe enthusiast of many years, I was offended by the boorish reaction and lack of appreciation. Maybe it is I who is overly sensitive about rude behavior. Nevertheless I wanted to express to you my admittedly unsolicited support.

    In addition, the occasion of this incident, provides me the opportunity to thank you for the helpful information you have provided me with your research about the Sasieni brand. Your work filled a void. I have often consulted you article when deciding to purchase a Sasieni pipe, or to bid for one on EBay.

    Kind Regards,

  27. 27 Bert
    July 16, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Mr. Smith, I have a one dot Sasieni with a pat. no. of 150221/20 and reg. no. 711951.
    There is also the the letter H clearly stamped were the bowl meets the shank. Can you tell me about the Reg # and the letter H? I am thinking it might be a finish code like Dunhill uses for their different finishes.

    Thank you,

    Bert

  28. 28 Robert Butcher
    August 21, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Dear Mr Smith,
    Writing at a tangent to the main theme of this thread, are you aware of the role Sassieni played in the origin of the “reject pipe” trade?
    Before the last war, probably around 1930 my father’s uncle, Harold Butcher who was shops director for Rothmans at the time, regularly lunched with Joe Sassieni at their favourite oyster bar, and on one occasion when Harold called at the factory he noticed a large pile of pipes in a bin which Joe told him were all rejects to be scrapped. “I think I could find a use for these, could you name me a price?” “Really Harold? Well I’ll just clean them up and get them varnished for you.” “No,no, I’ll take them just as they are.” So they struck a deal, and the pipes were put on “display” piled unceremoniously in wicker baskets and placed in the window of Rothmans’ prestigeous shop in Pall Mall. A week later Harold called at the shop to evaluate progress. “I’m sorry sir but our customers don’t know what to make of these pipes – they just won’t sell.”
    Harold pondered, “Well I can’t reduce the price any further – Ah! thats it, they’re too cheap – Double the price!” The whole consignment was sold in days.

    • 29 Ken Roberts
      May 21, 2010 at 11:51 pm

      I spent much time from 1969 to 1975 living with Harold Butcher and his wife Jess, who was my father’s cousin. I was extremely fond of Harold and we were very close. I think of him so often. Sadly, for reasons best left interred with Jess, we drifted apart. Coming across your story about the reject pipes I was instantly transported to Harold’s wonderful company in the drawing room of 4 KPH, Wren’s Hill, enjoying the stories of his business career. Thank you for the pleasure.
      I don’t know whether this message goes to you, Robert Butcher, or to the owner of the murderofravens website – but if you do ever receive it I’d like you to know how much your great uncle meant to me and how much he was loved.

    • 30 Ken Roberts
      May 22, 2010 at 12:57 am

      I’ve just realised that this is Harold Butcher’s birthday – he would have been, I think, 117 years old today!

  29. 31 paige simms
    September 7, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    I have a group 4 smooth Prince that is stamped in Script ‘no fish tail’ above block lettering – MADE IN ENGLAND, thwn on the right side of the shank ALFRED S. and the shape number 38. There are no dots on the stem. any idea of the age of this pipe?

  30. 32 Dr. John
    November 3, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Nice addendum, Steve, in remembrance of the Colonel. He was a real treasure, and I miss him quite a bit.

    All my best,

    Dr. John

  31. 33 Tomas DeMoss
    December 14, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Hi Steve, 12/14/2009

    I’ve just started collecting pipes about three months ago and purchased my first Sasieni today. It has not arrived yet. It has no blue dots. It’s in mint condition. On the left side of the stem it says Old England over London Made. On the right side, in a ‘football’ thing it’s stamped Made In with England beneath. The serial number is 56S. It’s a 3/4 bent Viscount Lascelles shaped. Is this really a Sasieni? The person I’m getting it from, on ebay, is, I understand, very reliable. What do you think? Tomas in Tucson Oh Yes! Reading your article excited me to acquire as Sasieni. I will no doubt not stop at just one.

  32. 34 Tomas DeMoss
    December 16, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    I just received the supposed Sasieni pipe today as described above. Also, at the base of the stem, on top, is a ‘railroad’ shaped stamping with two diagonal lines drawn through it. Nothing else. Does this sound like a Sasieni? Tomas

  33. 35 Paul Tummers
    December 18, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    I got my present today;

    A very nice Sasieni 2 dot billiard shape pipe.
    At one side of the shank is stamped Sasieni two dot, underneath London made.
    The other side has stamped in an oval Made in England.
    When did Sasieni start with the two dots?
    It is a very nice pipe, light in the mouth and a very good smoker for my Dutch Troost tobacco.
    Sometimes I see on Ebay new 4 dot Sasieni pipes, mostly so called Ruff Root and unsmoked.
    Does Sasieni still oil-cure the wood, and are those pipes any good for the money?
    They are sand blast so do have I to expect much filling>

    Kind Regards from The Netherlands,

    Paul Tummers.

  34. 36 Pedro J. Jorge
    January 3, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    Dear Mr. Smith:

    I would like to take the time to thank you for writing this article. I have Benefited immensely from it. At the same time I would like to point out what seems to be a small inconsistency. In your article you stated; “by 1935 Sasieni began stamping pipes, based on the shape, with their own names, which were usually, but not always, English towns. For example, apples were stamped “Hurlingham”, bulldogs were “Grosvenor” or “Danzey”, and panels were “Lincoln”. This was confusing for me because every time I see an eight dot on ebay it has a town name, usually Warwick or Buckingham. This presents a problem because it is commonly accepted that eight dots were produced until 1930. At first I thought that they must have fake replacement stems, but then I started noticing that the pipes also had the fishtail on the signature and the appropriate patent numbers. intrigued by this I decided to read your article again to make sure I didn’t misinterpret what I had read and to my surprise I noticed that the add from 1926 at the top of the page shows a “Warwick” and calls it “one of the popular Sasieni models”.

  35. 38 Brian from Scottsdale, AZ
    January 9, 2010 at 2:48 am

    I have a Sasieni second, “His Royal Highness”. What I can’t figure out is that on the other side of the shank it is stamped Rum Cured & then Made in England (football) & number 538 N. The stem has to be a replacement since it is marbalized colored almost matching the grain of the pipe & has 2 large yellow dots on the top of the stem. Besides that, the last ‘s’ in Highness is cut off where the stem meets the shank & there is no ” as there is before the word His. Any idea how old it is?
    Appreciate any info you have….
    Brian

    • January 10, 2010 at 1:34 pm

      It’s a second. Probably made before WWII. They’re not valuable, but you don’t see them very often, so it’s a nice addition to your collection.

      Regards,

      Steve Smith

      “taking up a glowing cinder with the tongs and lighting with it the long cherry-wood pipe which was wont to replace his clay when he was in a disputatious rather than a meditative mood”–Dr. John H. Watson

      Please visit my blog at murderofravens.org

  36. 40 Arthur Montgomery
    January 14, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    Dear, Mr. Smith

    I have come into my possession Three 8Dot Sasieni pipes.They all appear to be in original and very good condition. The names on them are, ASHFORD,WINDERMERE and REIGATE. I have taken pictures and could send them to you vie Email if you’d like.I would really appreciate any information you might know in regard to these pipes.

    Thank you so much for keeping up the good fight of this wonderful institution and Art form.

    Cheers, Arthur

  37. 41 Richard Stone
    January 19, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    I have an 8dot London Made, serial Number almost illedgible but appears to have as the last 4 5428 on the opposite side the name “Melton” appears. This pipe is in very good condition but My Dr. has said I need to quit due to health. Without seeing this pipe could you give me a price range of it’s worth.

    I appreciate your knowledge and advice.

    R. Stone

  38. 42 Carla
    February 13, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    Steve, I thoroughly enjoyed your article. I found it because I’ve just purchased in an antiques collective, what I suspect is one of the earliest Sasieni’s! Can you verify this? The style is a Bedford, I’m pretty sure. It has a single blue dot on top of the stem. The Sasieni logo has the ‘fishtail’ flourish. It says ” London Made Rustic Made in England” I can’t see a patent number, though there is a number “17′ turned on it’s side on the lefthand side of the logo panel and a number “7” to the right of the logo. There’s also a 7 on the stem.
    You may be interested to know that I’m a 66 year old woman who recently had a wonderful affair with a pipe smoking Texas photographer…and we shared his pipe. I so loved it, that after our relationship ended, I decided to find my own. My new pipe has changed my life. I brought it home, lit the fireplace, and with a good book and my cat in my lap, I lit up. What a wonderful life changing experience. Normally I would have turned on the computer instead! I’ve made this my evening ritual and I think I’ll add a bit of Couvasier as well. I AM a bit concerned about
    the possible health consequences, but I guess at my age…..
    Thanks, Steve, for any info you might have for me.
    Oh, one more thing. My pipe came in it’s own box, obviously very old, red with white lettering including the wonderful Lasienei fishtail logo. It says ” Matured by Patent Process The Lasieni Pipe Fully Guaranteed – London Made.” Inside the lid in red type it says ” Guarantee
    A new pipe will be given in ixchange should any fault develop in smoking” Lasieni Logo again.
    I paid only the grand sum of $20. for this jewel and don’t intend to sell it, but would you have
    an idea of it’s value?

  39. 43 joyce
    May 25, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    i have a sasieni and it has a sheild on the pipe instead of the dots could anyone tell me the year of this one

  40. 44 Rev.B
    August 13, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Mr. Smith,
    Curious to know if you’ve ever heard the rationale for the fish flourish on the Sasieni signature? It seems contrived, and so I wondered if Joel Sasieni was a man of Christian faith as the fish rivals only the cross for most identifiable Christian image.
    As a recent pipeman, and a minister as well, I found this symbol on the stem intriguing and just wondered. There doesn’t seem to be any info online about this other than the fish being used to date the pipes. Know anything? I understand you are an agnostic, but maybe this’ll spark some spiritual questing. ?? Lemme know if you find anything as I am always having to justify my interests in terms of good Christian conduct, but of course, I conduct myself and pull stuff like this into my sermons and other writing. 🙂
    Thanks.

  41. 45 Dannon
    January 23, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    Mr. Smith,
    I hope you can help me. I have a one dot Sesieni oblong bent with Patent # 150221/20. I would like to know more about this pipe. It also has 109 on the opposite side of makers mark. Any help would be great.

  42. December 10, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    I have read so many posts on the topic of the
    blogger lovers except this article is really a good piece of writing, keep it up.

  43. 47 Thomas foley
    December 23, 2016 at 6:10 pm

    I recently bought a london house pipe on ebay for 2.28$ on ebay i saw a london house catolog online selling sasieni pipes from 1936 london house 1$ old england 2$ mayfair 5$ four dot 8$ is this london house very old second ? It looks like sasieni made the pipe for london house distribution.

  44. 48 Derek Parris
    January 18, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    I was wondering what the difference was between an oompaul and a oompaul s ?

  45. February 14, 2017 at 1:31 am

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  46. July 31, 2017 at 7:40 pm

    I just got a sasieni “hands ” pipe 359 shape with patent no 210273/23 made in england football style stamp. Rustic or sandblast finish any dating or ideas on this pipe?

  47. August 29, 2017 at 9:55 pm

    It’s going to be ending of mine day, except before finish I am reading this great piece of writing to
    increase my knowledge.


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